Genre: Horror
Premise: A young husband feels that his marriage is slipping away. But he has no idea how bad it’s about to get.
About: Today’s script comes from one of my favorite screenwriters, Brian Duffield. I’ve reviewed all of Duffield’s scripts except for two, today’s script being one of those final two. My favorite script of his is Monster Problems, which is in my Top 25. And the script of his that is the closest to production is The Babysitter (about a babysitter from hell), which some have argued is Duffield’s weakest script. Vivien is one of the scripts that first put Duffield on Hollywood’s radar.
Writer: Brian Duffield
Details: 102 pages

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Alexandra Daddario for Vivien?

Been saving this one for when I needed a pick-me-up.

Yesterday’s script left me with such a bored taste in my mouth, I needed a script I knew I was going to like – something weird and unexpected. That was my issue with Mr. Toy. It was just so… rote. You knew everything that was going to happen 30 pages before it happened, because the script never set a precedent for surprising you.

What do we say here? The enemy of entertainment is predictability. As soon as your story becomes predictable, you’ve lost your audience.

I went into this one completely cold. All I knew about it was the title. So let’s find out what it’s about together!

Tom and Vivien have been married for awhile, though like a lot of the details in this story, we’re not given exact numbers. What we do know is that Vivien is drifting away from Tom. He knows this. Somewhere, deep inside, he knows she’s fucking their neighbor, Charlie.

And so he’s gotten used to the fact that Vivien has stopped laughing at his jokes, that she now sleeps facing away from him, that in the tiny moments when he tries to make her jealous so she’ll notice him, she’ll notice but won’t care. That she’s, for all intents and purposes, checked out of this marriage.

“Vivien Hasn’t Been Herself Lately” then asks the question: What if that were the best case scenario?

When Vivien starts walking on walls, Tom knows that his life has taken a turn for the worse. When she starts biting off her own fingers, he knows shit is getting bad. And when she starts beating Tom up mercilessly, he knows that his life has changed forever.

Vivien, Tom quickly learns, is possessed.

But, you see, Tom refuses to leave her. He tells the million plus demons who have now taken residence inside her body this. That he loves Vivien so much, he will stay until he finds a way to get them out of her.

And boy is he tested on that. Vivien does everything in her power to get Tom to kill her, kill himself, or leave forever. One day, she chokes Tom out until he comes to again, then repeats the process. Over and over and over again. For 24 straight hours. And still Tom won’t leave. He keeps probing, keeps trying to figure out how to save his wife.

Unfortunately, as we move through the story, and we experience just how dark things get in this home, we realize that this isn’t your average exorcism script. And that it’s very unlikely that there’s going to be a happy ending.

Wow.

I haven’t said that in a long time after reading a script.

This script was… wow.

I mean, holy shit. That had to be one of the most intense reads I’ve ever experienced. I’m still processing it. It’s basically about the person you love more than anything actively hating you every day for months on end.

It’s relentless. To the point where I had to stand up a couple of times and walk around just to assure myself that there was still good in the world.

But to this script’s credit, I couldn’t stay away for long. I had to sit down and find out what happened next.

I’m trying to get myself into the headspace where I can help you guys learn some screenwriting tips from this screenplay since it was so affecting. But I’m just not there. And that’s probably the biggest compliment I can give a script. It pulled me in so much, I wasn’t even thinking about screenwriting.

Or maybe I was abstractly. I know I’d catch myself thinking, “Holy shit is this brave. Holy shit is this unique. Holy shit nothing in this script is happening when it’s supposed to.” I mean, this is a possession movie and the exorcist shows up on page 17. Page 17! Most writers would’ve drawn the story out before bringing the exorcist in, padding the script until page 50 or 60. Our exorcists (plural) run away on page 20 here. I’m looking at this script going, “What the hell is he going to do now for 82 pages???”

And what he does is he turns this into a character piece. This is about – at least in my opinion – how difficult marriage is. It’s that things don’t go swimmingly all the time. And there are going to be periods where shit gets really bad. And you’re going to want to run away. And so despite the relentless negativity that is hurled at the reader throughout this story, it’s ultimately about a man who’s so in love with his wife, that he will stay with her at her worst.

But if that’s all the script offered, I don’t know if it would have been enough for me. It was the choices that Duffield took that really wowed me. Remember – writing is about making bold unexpected choices. Not all the time. Some of your choices have to be familiar. But every once in awhile, you have to be bold. Yesterday’s script didn’t have a single bold choice. Not one. Thats why it was so boring.

Here, for example, one of the surprising sequences was that Tom and these demons actually developed a relationship of their own – separate from Vivien. It’s a fucked up relationship where one second they’ll be laughing together and the next “Vivien” will hurl Tom against the wall, breaking his arm. But it’s so unexpected and weird that it adds to, easily, the strangest character piece I’ve ever read.

And on top of that is Duffield’s voice (‘Voice and Choice’ should be the new mantra I endorse here). He’s one of the best screenwriters, hands down, at painting a picture with as few words as possible. On the very first page, we get this line: “Their socked feet touch.” Not “their feet touch,” which is what 99 out of 100 screenwriters would’ve written. But their “socked” feet. That one word turns a cliche into a verifiable image that you can imagine. And once you’re imagining, you’re no longer outside. You’re inside the story.

On top of that, this is the kind of stuff writers should be writing to start their careers. You want to write stories with 2-3 characters that are cheap but that have a hook to them. And because 99% of writers who take this route go the “cliche contained thriller” path, trapping a few characters in a room with danger outside (Cloverfield Lane, for example), if you’re the 1% that can do this without using that trope, you have a great opportunity to stand out. And if you have any directing aspirations whatsoever, try to direct that script yourself. Because you’ll get your career moving a million times faster by directing your own script than you will waiting for someone else to direct it.

I have nothing but praise for this screenplay. It’s not easy to read. In fact, it might be one of the hardest reads you’ll have all year. But it’s hard for the right reasons. It’s hard because you want these two to end up together so badly but you have to go through so much pain to find out if they’re going to.

This was really good. And a new TOP 25!!!

[ ] What the hell did I just read?
[ ] wasn’t for me
[ ] worth the read
[x] impressive (NEW TOP 25!!!)
[ ] genius

What I learned: If you want to write about a relationship, don’t literally write about a relationship. Find a metaphor for the relationship, something with a hook, and write about that. To use Vivien as an example, if the original intent was to write about a troubled marriage, writing about a literal trouble marriage will put people to sleep. By using this possession as a metaphor, you’ve all of a sudden got a clever hook, and your movie can now be marketed.

What I learned 2: Be brave and write about the things you’re scared to admit to anyone in real life. Your scripts and your novels are the places where you have to let that stuff out. And the more honest you are, the more the reader is going to connect with your story.

  • Avatar

    Alexandra Daddario is sooooo good looking.

    • BMCHB

      She is.

      • Avatar

        I thought Gal was your girl? ;)

        • BMCHB

          SHUSH! Don’t tell Margot Robbie that!

          • klmn

            Dude, you’re confused.

            My advice: Settle on one, then stalk her.

    • Patrick Sawyer

      A lot of people find her eyes to be stunning but they kinda creep me out.

      • Buddy

        Just don’t look her in the eyes…
        ;-P

      • Mike.H

        Look 20″ lower, buzz says you’d find heavenly goodies. :)

      • Wes Mantooth

        She has eyes?

  • kevin thomas

    Anyone have it? kevthomz@gmail.com

    Thanks in advance.

    • Steffan

      And steffanralphdelpiano @gmail.com

      As well.

      Thanks so much.

      • Scott Crawford

        Mr.scottcrawford@hotmail.com if you can’t find it anywhere else. I’ll send you a copy when I get your email.

        • Steffan

          steffanralphdelpiano@gmail,com

          Thanks so much, Scott. You’re the man.

        • shewrites

          Yes, please Scott. o dot hodge at outlook dot com
          I hope you are loving your new job!

  • carsonreeves1

    The only script I haven’t read of Duffield’s yet is, I think, Underwater. Anyone read that one? Thoughts?

    • Dan B

      Did you read “The Body you Bring” yet?

    • Dan B

      Also read Underwater, thought it was the weakest script

    • Marija ZombiGirl

      Classic Duffield : so light and such a quick read that it feels as if it was written directly on an iPhone without stopping by the Prep phase… Can’t say that I’m a fan of his but he obviously knows how to write to certain H’wood standards.

      • Dan B

        He mentioned that many readers and studio execs will read scripts on an iPhone now, maybe on a commute, or while waiting for meetings, etc. So he writes accordingly.

        • Marija ZombiGirl

          … Good Lord.

          • PQOTD

            That’s got me wondering if it’s possible to just tweet a script. 140 characters – boom – done.

    • bruckey

      I haven’t but it has led to Mrs Twilight (KStew) going bald…….super cute…..
      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5774060/?ref_=nm_flmg_wr_1

  • BMCHB

    It’s a wonderful title. So casually cool and still perfect. Reminds me of the song titles of Johnny Thunders or The Only Ones.

    • brenkilco

      Assume it was swiped from the famous line in Psycho.

    • PQOTD

      Ah, who doesn’t love understatement?

      • BMCHB

        What can I say? I Fell In Love With His First Name.

  • Dan B

    I believe Brian Duffield is supposed to direct this

  • Doug

    I hope it’s better than the last two Duffield-penned movies I saw: Jane Got A Gun and Insurgent. Both were astonishingly dull. I mean “teeth-grinding-just-shoot-me-in-the-bollocks-then-stab-my-eyes-out” levels of dull. I would rather have my prostate examined than re-watch those movies. And my doctor has a steel hook for a hand.

    • PQOTD

      Thank you for that wonderful visual imagery, Doug. :)

    • andyjaxfl

      In fairness, most of Jane Got a Gun was substantially rewritten from the BL draft that has been floating around for a while. The original ending was much darker, and there was more of a mystery around Ewan’s character.

      • Doug

        Apparently the producers lost a quarter of their funding just before shooting, so they had to run around making substantial changes to reign in the budget.

    • bruckey

      That whole situation was one giant mess.

      Lynne Ramsay was right to walk away, why put your hard earned reputation/name to an inferior script ?

      J.G.A Gun is one movie I’d like to see remade.

  • Malibo Jackk

    Is this the script that begins with him spying on his wife
    and we don’t know why he’s doing it?
    Or am I thinking of another script?

  • huckabees

    Update on Duffield’s “Babysitter”: Netflix bought the finished movie from New Line.

    http://variety.com/2016/film/news/mcg-babysitter-netflix-new-line-bella-thorne-1201939879/

  • Lucid Walk

    Monster Problems > Babysitter > Underwater > Bridemaid is a Bitch

    • Dan B

      I actually liked Bridesmaid quite a bit — thought it was funny.

  • BMCHB

    Anyhoo, It’s great to read an article when Carson Gets His Mojo Back! And a top 25 to boot too!

  • brenkilco

    If this were a true character piece, it wouldn’t involve demons. It would be one of those things where the devoted, old husband has to care for the wife suffering from alzheimers and what does love mean when the person you knew is slipping away from you bit by bit and it would probably be in French unless the husband was like Jim Broadbent or somebody like that.

    But honestly this sounds like tedious, grade B swill. And if it’s not Carson has left out an awful lot. Does the wife just disappear on page 17? Or are there desperate scenes where she resurfaces, reasserts her love and begs for help? Does the husband develop a plan to save her? What the hell is the plot? Just a series of scenes where the weird, gruesome ante keeps getting raised? Is there lots of dialogue between husband and demons? Do they fuck with him like the demon did with Karas in The Exorcist, detailing the wife’s infidelities etc. Do we explore the husband’s psychology in an interesting way? Does he try to keep others from finding out about the wife, from getting her arrested or committed? Is this basically Santa Clarita Diet without sympathy or laughs?

    Please somebody read this and tell us more. A lot more.

    • Dan B

      I found in many ways it does study the husband’s psychology to a degree. It’s just the process of him breaking down, and then trying to build back up and save his marriage. There’s a lot of dry/black humor in it. It’s also a Duffield script — this could easily translate to a 80 minute movie.

      • brenkilco

        80 minutes? Kinda thin.

        • PQOTD

          Perhaps he should’ve cut it down and entered it into Carson’s shorts.

          • PQOTD

            Um, okay, that kind-of came out wrong.

          • brenkilco

            Carson, is that a Duffield script in your pocket or are you just glad to see us?

          • klmn

            Maybe it’s a French fry.

          • bruckey

            but if he put it into Carson’s shorts surely the script would expand…….to 150 pages

          • Marija ZombiGirl

            Only “kind-of”?? :D :D

      • Orange Pop

        Just like “The Wall” translated to a great 80 minute movie that made no money. And I didn’t mind reading “The Wall” originally, but knew it wasn’t a movie.

    • Orange Pop

      This script is awful. I wouldn’t believe Carson’s review. Really awful writing– similar style to Underwater as well.

      To be honest, a lot of scripts that make it in Carson’s top 25 become awful movies. Though this one was an awful script, too.

      Writing “Holy Shit” and stuff like that in scene description is not a unique voice.

      Did you read Underwater, Carson? There’s a reason why Brian’s draft is being rewritten as many times as it is…

      • brenkilco

        Had a feeling. Where can I find this script?

        • Orange Pop

          Someone sent it to me a while ago… think it was Scott. I’ll look, I think I deleted it though, ’cause I hated it so much. Which is rare, I usually just keep every script from emails.

          The writing style on this one is beyond annoying. I’ll look now…

        • Orange Pop

          I found it. What’s your email?

          • brenkilco
          • Orange Pop

            Sent!

          • brenkilco

            Thanks

          • sen9am

            Would love to have a browse of this. Could you possibly pass it on?

          • brenkilco

            need email

          • dru

            Would you mind passing “Vivien” on? chewey4727@gmail.com

          • ChasHutt

            Could you email it my way? Thanks!

            chas134@hotmail.com

          • Tungi Mu

            Hi, if you’ve got the script can you please pass it on to: tungimu1@gmail.com

          • nicohajj

            Hi Guys, If you have any of these scripts could you send them to nicohajj@gmail.com That would be so great. Thanks!

          • Emotionoid

            Hi, can you pass the scripts to mazhar.mohd@gmail.com? Thanks.

          • Mike.H

            If you have UNDERWATER & VIVIEN pdf BOTH, please send! May1msg at gmail dot com. Thanks!

          • Zadora

            May I have it too? gatortales @ gmail .com :)

          • Orange Pop

            You got it?

          • Zadora

            No. Can you try again? :)

          • Orange Pop

            Sent!!!

          • Tungi Mu
          • Orange Pop

            You still need it? Or someone send it?

          • Tungi Mu

            I got it, thanks.

          • ABHews

            I would dig on reading this script, if you don’t and mind…

            abhews@gmail.com

          • nadalpiantini
      • Marija ZombiGirl

        Almost as if it’s being… written.

      • ChasHutt

        Would you mind sending me the script as well?
        chas134@hotmail.com

        Thank you!

        • Orange Pop

          Did someone already send you it? Let me know if you still need it.

          • ChasHutt

            No, I haven’t received it yet.

          • Orange Pop

            Sent

  • BMCHB

    CARSON: Please, baby, it’ll be so good.

    MISS SCRIPTSHADOW: No, Carson, we are not having a threesome with a Brian Duffield script… again.

    • PQOTD

      That’s deeply disturbing, B.

  • andyjaxfl

    Duffield and S. Craig Zahler have both sold a ton of spec scripts, but until recently have had few of them produced. Nice to see that trend turn around of late with both as I’m big fans of both. Duffield is about to start filming this script soon, making it his fourth produced spec in three years, and Zahler’s third in three years is about to start filming as well.

    • Master John Moss

      ‘Bone Tomahawk’ was a big bag of THIS IS FUCKED UP.

      • andyjaxfl

        There are parts of that movie that one can never unsee.

        • brenkilco

          A stone ax and some elbow grease can still get the job done.

          • andyjaxfl

            Maybe a little bleach, too.

      • Deaf Ears

        I liked it, but it owes a substantial and largely unacknowledged debt to an X Files episode – “HOME.”

    • bruckey

      Read some interviews of Zahler’s.
      The guy does not shy away from giving his opinion.
      (eg) Said ‘The Revenant’ was ‘shit’

      • fragglewriter

        And his digs at Tarantino. I don’t mind the guy, or anyone, who give their honest opinions, but I think they should first back it up with a produced credit with a decent rating. I watched Bone Tomahawk, and thought the movie was wandering and overrated. Even the gory scenes didn’t shock / sicken me.

        • Kirk Diggler

          “I don’t mind the guy, or anyone, who give their honest opinions, but I think they should first back it up with a produced credit with a decent rating.”

          Is that what people should do here as well? Refrain from giving strong opinions until they option or sell something? Aren’t you a person with strong opinions, about Bone Tomahawk no less?

          Just curious how you justify saying this on a blog full of amateur screenwriters who don’t hold back much. ;-)

          • fragglewriter

            THEY and ME are two different people. They meaning screenwriters who have at least one produced credit to their name before they start slamming their peers. Me meaning an opinionated person regardless of credits or not will provide their perspective/viewpoint.

            I don’t have access to producers/gatekeepers/studio execs so for the time-being, my reputation will not be harmed. Diablo Cody spoke about that her having a big mouth at the time Juno was released and regrets her voicing her opinions.

            So They should at least have a produced credit with a decent rating before they start slamming their peers. Reputation might be harmed UNLESS the recipient is a known industry punching bag / hack.

          • Kirk Diggler

            Yeah but isn’t that THEIR problem? Why are you concern trolling their opinions? If Zahler and Cody want to shoot themselves in the foot (and it hasn’t seem to hurt them at all, has it?)… let them say what they want.

            Besides, it’s about talent. If Zahler and Diablo have talent for the long run then it won’t matter what they say.

            I’m reminded what Steven Soderbergh said about Jerry Bruckheimer not long after “Sex Lies and Videotape” hit the scene. He said he had no interest in working with a producer like him, someone known for producing schlock. Didn’t seem to hurt him any.

          • fragglewriter

            Why are you trolling my response that wasn’t replied to you? So can you foresee long-term success, let alone short-term success? You can’t compare a writer to a director. Different realm. Like comparing apple to oranges.

          • Kirk Diggler

            “Why are you trolling my response that wasn’t replied to you?”

            This is public forum.

            And in Soderbergh’s case, he was a director of one micro budget indie. Directors need producers. He went on the record to say he had no interest in working with one of the most successful producers (financially) of the time.

            Also, Zahler and Cody are both directors as well, and that’s who you were talking about. Anything else?

          • PQOTD

            OT: One wonders why hasn’t there been an upgrade of ‘Sex, Lies and Videotapes’ for the 21st century yet?

            ‘Sex, Lies and Instagram’? Or the gay men’s version: ‘Sex, Lies and Grindr’?

      • Midnight Luck

        The Revenant WAS shit.

        • PQOTD

          I scratched my head as to why it got so much love. Maybe it was because Hwood figured it really was Leo’s turn to get an Oscar but they couldn’t be seen to be giving it to him for a crappy film. (i.e. the Emperor’s new clothes phenomenon.)

  • Scott Serradell

    Duffield’s a strange bird…

    I’ve only read “The Babysitter” and “Underwater” and found it really easy to get into the rhythm of both. ‘Breezy’ is the word I guess I would use. And his writing is disciplined enough to appear pretty effortless on the page; the mechanics of his technique is like a ghost on the page: There, but not really detectable. There’s something to be said for that, I suppose…

    But my disconnect with him — and this is only my personal taste — is I simply cannot give a damn about his characters or the story; the subject-matter, the situations, the genre is all a big ‘no thanks’ from me.

    So I guess the question is: Is he just a good writer of this kind of material? Or his he writing this kind of stuff to get his foot inside the door? (e.g. once he’s in, he’s got bigger fish to fry.)

    • BMCHB

      This a strange bird….

      Duffield can write – you read his scripts and it’s not a waste of time. I’m glad he’s pushing to direct this one. He needs to capture his own particular kind of madness…
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f336f22e96a14ca6c885c753a32a8c821152204b2d5f1dfbfe69a19c49b01ee9.jpg

      • Scott Serradell

        I hear you. But isn’t that the irony of script reading? You want to the quickest, most painless reading experience … for something that’s going to require months of hard work and hundreds of people to materialize. I mean, for all that wouldn’t you want some meat on it?

        But overall this seems a good career move. This seems an interesting enough story for a first time director and, with how Duffield moves your eye on the page I get the sense he might be pretty visually minded. So: Curious thus far.

        But man: I just saw another one of his (“The Babysitter”) is being directed by McG. I mean — a produced credit is great for your career — but having that ass-clown handle the reigns has got to sting artistically.

        • BMCHB

          Can we leave clowns out of this?

          You make a fantastic point: It’s all about the easy read.

          Readers just want to read and read and read. They don’t want to have to scan back to Page 15 to find out if lovers are kissing cousins or next-door neighbors.

        • Kirk Diggler

          Dude calls himself McG. Ugh.

        • brenkilco

          Yeah, I don’t want to spend one minute more than I have to on this thing I’m going to spend a hundred million dollars on.

          • Scott Serradell

            Or, my favorite: “We’ll just fix it post..”

  • Mike.H

    I’d love to read this: may1msg at gmail dot com. Thanks!

  • Orange Pop

    I thought this script sucked. Read it awhile ago. Thought Underwater and this were awful. I think Carson likes Duffield though, so he might be a little biased. The only script I liked from Duffield was Monster Problems. Which was great.

  • jaehkim

    i guess it’s up to me today to share this one. put your email below and i’ll send you a google drive link to the script.

    • BMCHB

      briarz AT g Mail

      Cheers

      • jaehkim

        sent

        • BMCHB

          Cheers for that. Thank you:-)

    • fragglewriter

      fragglewriter at yahoo

      • jaehkim

        sent

        • fragglewriter

          Thanks

    • Emotionoid
      • jaehkim

        done

    • RO

      willaflint at gmail dot com

      please and thanks

      • jaehkim

        ok

    • CG

      cgman103 at gmail dot com. Thanks so much!

      • jaehkim

        sent

    • Malibo Jackk

      Cool.
      Like to take a peek.
      malibujackk at gmail dot com

      • jaehkim

        done!

        • Malibo Jackk

          Couldn’t find attachment or anything to click on.

          • jaehkim

            it’s in the title line. i’ll send it again in the body of the email

    • garrett_h

      Would love to check it out if you’re still around. Or, you could just send it over whenever you’re back online.

      garrett dot harris at gmail. Thanks!

      • jaehkim

        done.

        • garrett_h

          Got it, thanks!

    • minhtran513

      Nice. Could you please send to minhtran513 at yahoo. Thanks!

      • jaehkim

        sent-

  • BMCHB

    Great post. Probably best in the future to no mention politics,

    I’m an Irish Trump and Israel supporter.

  • Poe_Serling

    File this one under another Wacky (and extremely dark) Wednesday…

    Okay, let’s see… wife starts walking on walls… hurting herself… hurting
    her husband (for 24 straight hours at one point)… and on and on.

    Hard to see any real entertainment value in that kind of storyline. Just
    not my cup of tea I guess.

    • klmn

      What if the wife turned into a classic monster – like the Wolfman?

      Okay, she could be the Wolfwoman – to keep the feminists from bitching.

      • Poe_Serling

        In all seriousness…

        Without reading the featured project today, it’s difficult for me
        to compare the two.

        All I know is that the classic film The Wolf Man was obviously
        inspired by European folklore dealing with a some kind of
        shape-shifting creature roaming about the countryside.

        Plus, the Uni pic also had the distinction of creating a lot of the
        common story elements that would turn up in almost all of the
        future pics featuring the hairy subject matter.

        ;-)

  • klmn
    • fragglewriter

      I think Anthony Weiner is an interesting person. From the few clips that I’ve seen from his documentary and him in the news, he doesn’t care one bit how his actions might harm his family. And he has quite a sense of humor. But like the South Park people said about Trump, you just can’t keep up with what he’s doing. The material they would write won’t be as good as the real thing.

      • PQOTD

        “[H]e doesn’t care one bit how his actions might harm his family” is pretty much the mark of a sociopath – someone who’s incapable of empathy or genuine remorse. Maybe a long stint in jail will help, but I rather doubt it.

  • Master John Moss

    ‘Dr. Strange’ showed up on Canadian Netflix last night. Is that also true of the U.S?

    • wlubake

      Lots of marvel/Disney showing up recently. Wouldn’t surprise me.

      • Scott Crawford

        In the U.K., we currently have Avengers 2 and Iron Man 3 but they don’t stay for long and are quickly replaced, especially after they’re shown on Tv. If you’re getting Netflix to watch such movies, you’re better off just buying those movies outright.

        • wlubake

          Here’s what I find impressive about Netflix. I originally joined to get access to their wide range of DVDs per the mail service. Loved it, as my local Blockbuster just couldn’t compare on inventory. Then I got hooked on the streaming service so I could watch old shows I had missed start to finish like Breaking Bad and Lost. Currently, my wife and I are devouring their original TV series.

          3 different phases, each appealing to what I was craving in entertainment at that time.

          Makes you wonder what they’ll be doing 2 years from now. My guess is that the next step for them is Bright, etc., with high budget original movies you can’t get theatrically. They are on their way already.

          • Master John Moss

            Oh, they’re there! Last week gave us Brad Pitt in ‘War Machine.’

            The bigger question for all of us is what’s the Netflix experience going to be like when Disney inevitably buys it?

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpjCroELCew Carmelo Framboise

    “…the entire Leftist media (which is to say, the entire media…)”

    Lol.

  • RO

    The only script of Brian Duffield’s I can remember is “Your bridesmaids a bitch”, and I mostly remember that being a script with a lot of missed opportunities.

    I look forward to checking this one out and see if Carson’s review is beyond just fan gushing.

  • RO

    I’m not sure if the gender reversal would really “sanction spousal abuse”. A wife trying to save her husband from a demonic possession would denote a strong female lead as opposed to what we are currently getting which are female badass fighters.

    A strong character is not defined by how much ass they kick, but the difficult choices they’re able to make and how they survive the consequences or outcome.

    • Loetzen

      “I’m not sure if the gender reversal would really “sanction spousal abuse”.”

      I’m saying that that’s how the Buzzfeed-ified media would INTERPRET it, regardless of whether it were actually doing so. Case in point: Passengers was widely denounced for “sanctioning date rape” and such things, despite having no such actual actions in the film.

      Just one example: according to the above review of this script, one spouse chokes out the other spouse to the point of unconsciousness. CAN YOU IMAGINE how the feminist media would react to that, if the spouse doing the choking were a man, and the choked party a woman? My god, if you deny that the feminist media would scream bloody murder, you’re either not being observant of endless precedents, or not being truthful.

      And of course, the entire mainstream media would follow along, in order to signal virtue. CNN would just duplicate the Buzzfeed/Jezebel talking points. And the movie would get 10% on RT (because which critic would dare incur feminist denunciation?). And it would tank.

      • Kirk Diggler

        So what you’re saying is that you’re really really upset that we can’t have movies in which women are degraded and violated and choked and raped and spat on without anyone being upset about it. Got it. Can only hope you don’t have daughters.

        • Pugsley

          He’s not saying that at all. Loetzen was just opining that it’s odd that no one has yet publicly criticized VIVIEN for a spouse beating up on the other, when, if the genders were reversed, there would likely be universal condemnation.

          • Kirk Diggler

            The genders aren’t reversed so it doesn’t matter. He’s objecting to something that doesn’t exist in the script all so he can feed us gruel about ‘the feminist, leftist media’ and how ‘men are the real victims’ in all of this nonsense. Surely there’s a sub somewhere on 4chan he can take his gripes.

          • Pugsley

            I certainly part ways with him there. Though I do find credence in the argument the media leans left. As for feeding us gruel, kettle, meet pot.

          • Kirk Diggler

            “Though I do find credence in the argument the media leans left.”

            A tired old canard perpetuated by people on the right who object when the news media calls out their obstructionist behavior.

            The media is corporate owned and driven by corporate interests, and corporations almost never lean left unless we’re talking about something that shouldn’t even be defined by right/left politics (like climate change).

            “As for feeding us gruel, kettle, meet pot.”

            Care to expand on that?

          • Pugsley

            I stand corrected. I should have said “Pot, meet kettle.” I’m saying you’re metaphorically as black as the kettle you’re accusing. And from this non-Trump voter, yes, I think it’s obvious most of the major news outlets lean left. They may be owned by right wingers, but the capillaries delivering the news to the masses certainly don’t swing that way. Furthermore, I think militant leftists share more than passing responsibility for the Populist surge that swayed the Electorate and propelled a malignant, misogynistic narcissist into our highest office.

          • Kirk Diggler

            “I’m saying you’re metaphorically as black as the kettle you’re accusing.”

            I didn’t come to this site with a political agenda, he did. I called him out for it. It’s not the same. I’m not pushing any left wing ideology even though you seem to think so. I actually prefer to talk about screenwriting without the peripheral nonsense.

            Regarding the 2nd half of what you said, there are certain kernels of truth in your comments for sure but you give far too much credit to these ‘militant leftists’ (who are these people??) for turning the electorate toward a regressive philistine. No, it’s not that simple.

            At least 20% (possibly as high as 30%) are hardwired to be authoritarian. Trump is the candidate who brought out the worst tendencies of theses voters. It’s convenient to blame the ‘P.C. left and all its subsidiaries’ for turning people away from Democrats or even mainstream Republicanism (their rejection of Jeb, Cruz, others), but this wasn’t so much a turning away as it was a ‘seeking out’. They sought the dog and pony show that was singing their tune. Finally, a guy that said all the things out loud they dare not say in public.

            Coupled with a baggage-heavy corporate Democrat who failed to excite the masses with her candidacy, combined with a dumbed- down and heavily polarized electorate courtesy of a Corporate media that favors style over substance that failed to properly vet this mentally unstable man and instead gave him a billions dollars in free advertising…. well it was fait accompli. It’s got nothing to do with Barbra Streisand or tree huggers or BLM or SJW’s, but I suppose they make convenient scapegoats.

          • Pugsley

            I’ll let you have the last word, Kirk. Now, back to trashing a writer more accomplished than most of us.

          • PQOTD

            Not to mention an obsolete institution in the form of the gerrymandered Electoral College that should have long since been abolished in favour of directly electing a president. One person, one vote, not one person, a half or a third of a vote depending upon what state they live in. That’s crap.

          • Midnight Luck

            Been a long while, but I 100% agree with you on this.
            Hate to get into politics or left and right stuff, but the argument here about the media is just dead wrong.
            Anyone who says the media is a left leaning group is trying to sell you some of their own smelly tripe.
            The media hasn’t been left leaning since the 60’s or 70’s, maybe briefly in the ’90’s, but ultimately probably never really was during those times either.
            Media is a huge business, and you are right, big business is notoriously conservative, NOT liberal leaning.
            The media of today is owned and run by the biggest billionaires ​in the world who use it to not only make money, but to push their ideologies, which are almost completely right leaning.
            The largest media companies, and the most followed news outlets are things like FOX news, Bill O’Reilly, and Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, etc. They have by far the largest viewership and following anywhere. And anyone who says they aren’t severely conservative, is trying to sell you swamp land in Florida.
            How could anyone say with a straight face, or with any honesty that the media is “left leaning”?
            Ridiculous. And plain false.

          • PQOTD

            Rupert Murdoch could never be accused of leaning to the left, and his NewsCorp’s globally influential. How on earth his influence can be overlooked in discussions on media bias is beyond me.

          • ShiroKabocha

            Posted my comment before seeing yours.

            “He’s objecting to something that doesn’t exist in the script all so he
            can feed us gruel about ‘the feminist, leftist media’ and how ‘men are
            the real victims’ in all of this nonsense.”

            This. This is exactly what he does, all the time. Always steering the conversation towards the feminist, leftist oppressor / censor. Now I mostly ignore his posts when I see them popping up.

          • PQOTD

            Horror’s not my genre but if this was a drama script about a SPOUSE beating up on the other then I might have more patience for his argument.

            It’s not. It’s a script about DEMONS beating up on the spouse. I haven’t read the script but it seems the plot is that the person possessed has no control over what the demons do to and with the body they’ve taken hostage, rendering gender irrelevant.

            See my example above, challenging how I suspect Loetzen would have shifted his opinion had the script been about a man trying to save his brother from demonic possession. Would he have seen that brother as heroic or “pussy-whipped”?

      • PQOTD

        You are yourself being thoroughly disingenuous, Loetzen.

        If you’d ever read feminist theorizing on domestic violence, you’d realize the “feminist media [repeatedly] scream” that ALL domestic violence is wrong. Whether it be between heterosexual couples or LGBTQ couples, regardless of gender or sexuality, it’s WRONG.

        With the possible LEGAL exceptions of mental illness resulting in aberrant behavior or under the highly unusual circumstances of genuine self-defense, there is no specifically feminist justification for domestic violence.

        I’ve read a lot of feminst literature and I have NEVER read a feminist argue that violence against a man is okay.

  • Kirk Diggler

    “just shows how colossal the double standards (to the disadvantage of men) have become”

    Yes, us men are so put upon, what with our unequal pay (to our advantage), to controlling Congress and the judiciary, to controlling all the major corporations and banking institutions…. wow it must be so terrible for poor put upon you. How do you even get through the day with that neutered dick of yours?

  • Dallas Cobb

    OT: Congrats to Jai Brandon for signing with 3 Arts Entertainment!

    • Scott Crawford

      Frick! That’s some company to sign with!

    • Midnight Luck

      Woah! Seriously?
      That is awesome!
      Way to go Jai!

  • Master John Moss

    In other completely unrelated news, I think we can all agree that it’s super-duper annoying when a studio doesn’t give an IP the respect and reverence it deserves. This talk about Tom Holland playing a young Nathan Drake in a movie adaptation of the ‘Uncharted’ video game series is ridiculous. Who’s asking for that?!? If you’re a studio head, why would you gamble tens or hundreds of millions on a film, hoping that fans will embrace your radically divergent vision of that movie?? So irresponsible!

  • klmn

    OT. Will tomorrow’s post list the top ten shorts?

    • Justin

      That’d be quicker than I thought, but awesome. I was expecting another month at least.

    • Scott Crawford

      Loglines. Has to be loglines, it’s come up on both the last two AOWs.

  • Levres de Sang

    “What I learned 2: Be brave and write about the things you’re scared to admit to anyone in real life. Your scripts and your novels are the places where you have to let that stuff out. And the more honest you are, the more the reader is going to connect with your story.”

    This is great advice to an extent (and something I attempted in my own short script). Indeed, I’ll take interesting subject matter and / or a personal take over cliché, uninspired biopics and script-by-committee any day. However, the danger is that in releasing our inner demons we’re inclined to show a greater disregard for things like structure and narrative coherence. Primal Scream therapy is just that, I imagine: a momentary release from mental torment. Unfortunately it doesn’t come with an inbuilt three-act structure. (Of course, if you can give it one then you may well be onto something!)

  • brenkilco

    Read the script. Appalling. The kind of thing that makes you despair for the future of movies.

    Admittedly Duffield does have a useful talent. He is able to make us visualize a scenes using simple words and single lines for action and description. He’s an effectively economical writer. And though when things get complicated his style is less than adequate, most of the time it works well. But my God. Look at what he’s writing.

    He’s got the germ of an adult theme regarding marital stress but it’s buried inside a horror tale that is illogical, infantile, gratuitously gruesome, self contradictory, shamelessly contrived and grindingly repetitive,

    One early piece of glaring idiocy. Vivian has been possessed by demons. Why her? Don’t ask. Why not? She’s just peeled the face off one ambulance attendant with lava vomit -I told you not to ask- and crushed the legs of another, or maybe the same guy. Anyway what’s the next scene? An exorcism, where, by the way, she does a similar number on the poor priest. We have a crazed individual who is a severe danger to herself and others and has committed violent assault. Ya know the sort of behavior that in the real world would trigger police presence and an involuntary pysch hold. But not in this town. In this town a cop never shows up until the demon calls him and puts her fingers through the back of his necks and uses him as ventriloquist’s dummy- you’re still asking questions. Trust me, it’s not worth it.

    Course the police are no weirder than the neighbors, who suffer packs of rampaging wolves, hordes of mutant children, WWE level domestic violence and exploding windows; and never even complain.

    And we haven’t even gotten to the weirdest character of all. The protagonist. His wife is possessed and the attempted exorcism only ended with a mutilated cleric. So what does he do? Call for backup? No. Consult experts? No. Get the hell out of there? No. He hangs out in the house where for what seems like an eternity the demon alternately goads him and smashes his head against the wall. Um, does he have a plan? No. But you see he really loves his wife.

    Most of this thing reads like a demo reel for a horror special effects company. Random scenes of mayhem and gore-were the mutant kids before the wolves or after the wolves- punctuated by ludicrous conversations in which the protag opens up to the demon. What is the demon’s motive? God, now I’m asking the questions. And I’ve got no answer. It’s alternately brilliantly malevolent and childishly naive. It wants desperately to avoid being dispossessed from its host, yet it seems to want the protag to kill the wife. It’s invulnerable except for those times when the protag can carry it around like a comatose sack of potatoes. In short, it’s whatever it needs to be to get from random scene to random scene.

    How does all this tedium end. Well at of about the ninety page mark, the protag gets the feeling our demon doesn’t like fire. Sort of an ignus ex machina. So he starts a fire and the demon flees, conveniently extinguishing the blaze before husband and wife are consumed. This leaves our couple free to embrace and resolve their extraordinarily vague and ill defined marital problems.

    And if despite my warnings you’re still asking about the potential legal actions by the maimed priest and EMT, or how our hero and the mrs. explained away the dead cop on their lawn, well, clearly this isn’t your type of script either.

    Top 25. God help us all.

    • Kirk Diggler

      “illogical, infantile, gratuitously gruesome, self contradictory, shamelessly contrived and grindingly repetitive”

      I hate when you pull your punches.

    • Levres de Sang

      Amazing review! I particularly liked this evaluation: “In short, it’s whatever it needs to be to get from random scene to random scene.” I can just imagine a Billy Wilder character following up with “They’ll love it in Pasadena”.

      • brenkilco

        “It died in Pittsburgh.”
        “What do they know in Pittsburgh?”
        “They know what they like.”
        “If they knew what they liked they wouldn’t live in Pittsburgh.”

    • BMCHB

      I just got sent the script – haven’t read it yet.

      Bren knows his stuff, I just wouldn’t drinking with him.

      “I walked into a bar. Appalling. The kind of bar that makes you despair for the future of drinking.”

      *Read the last two lines as Humphrey Bogart

    • lonestarr357

      As far back as YOUR BRIDESMAID’S A BITCH, I just wasn’t feeling this Duffield guy.

      Three of his scripts in the top 25. I think the expression ‘I feel like I’m taking crazy pills!’ is entirely appropriate, here.

    • BMCHB

      I just read 10 pages and you may be correct.

      WTF?

      ‘Will’ is the action verb for the day. I think I’ve lost my will to live.

    • Scott Serradell
      • BMCHB

        Funny. Succinct. Sums up the whole day.

    • Acarl

      SPOT. ON.

    • Orange Pop

      I told you lol

      And to anyone that wants to read Underwater. Don’t… seriously. That script is even worse than this one. Take my word– save some time.

      I’m actually a bit worried about Carson after this one. Has he developed a drinking or drug problem?

      • brenkilco

        He does appear to be more attracted to the sizzle than the steak. But based on Duffield’s recent history, it seems the sizzle sells.

        • Orange Pop

          I think Hollywood has caught on to Duffield. Hence the reason why a script like Underwater goes straight to multiple rewrites with different writers. He’s got a great manager that can sell crap. But you can only do it for so long before the idiots realize it’s just crap. And this is crap.

          Don’t get me wrong though, Monster Problems was great.

          But I’m not sure if Vivien and Underwater would make it on Amateur Friday.

        • PQOTD

          As you said, “God help us all.”

      • klmn

        It’s even worse.

        He’s addicted to cheeseburgers.

        • Orange Pop

          I’m slightly serious… if he would have gave this a worth the read it would have made me question his mental state.

          To use an analogy: this is like saying something that’s really bad is really good.

          Or like saying that analogy I just used was a really good analogy.

    • Poe_Serling

      As I already mentioned below, even the general premise of this project
      is just something that would never be in my personal wheelhouse.

      And as an avid film watcher…

      I feel both movies and TV have turned a shade darker when it comes to the
      genres of horror/thriller/etc., especially in the last decade or so.

      I find a lot of scary pics/shows nowadays go for the shock button first with
      very little regard whether the scene fits into the overall narrative flow or
      not.

      • brenkilco

        It would be nice to think that Universal’s Dark Universe will be more than just a soulless, action franchise. Have just a touch of old school atmosphere. But unfortunately I’m betting DU will turn out very DC. By the end it will be the justice league with fur and fangs.

        • Poe_Serling

          Universal’s Dark Universe

          Yeah, being such a big fan of the originals, I’m hoping for
          the best (or at least the ‘old college try’ by the filmmakers
          in capturing a bit of that past magic).

          ;-)

          When it comes to casting, certain eras just seemed to
          have the right performers to fill those memorable roles.

          According to an article in one of the trade magazines,
          Dwayne Johnson is being considered for the upcoming
          The Wolf Man feature.

          I’m afraid his transformation into a werewolf would be
          more hulkish than terrifying.

    • nicohajj

      I would be interested in reading that script. Would there be a chance you send it to my gmail account: nicohajj@gmail.com? If so, thank you for sharing!

      • Dimitri

        I’m also very interested. If you have time can you send a copy to dim_janssen[at]hotmail.com. Cheers!

    • PQOTD

      Perhaps it’s a younger generation thing.

  • Sal Ayala

    OT:
    Been watching some bombs to hold me over until Wonder Woman drops. In order of preference:

    1) King Arthur – I actually really enjoyed it. Very good production value and action pieces.
    Solid performances from Jude Law, Eric Bana, and the french actress who played The Mage.

    The tone of the movie was very uneven as Guy Ritchies fingerprints stuck out like a sore thumb in what was otherwise a straightforward fantasy movie.

    And the characterization of Arthur was a total mess. A fatal combination of an uncharismatic actor, and an unlikeable character as written. Shocking that a movie with that price tag would get the guy on the marque and poster so wrong. Like a total 180 of what they’ve seemingly done with Wonder Woman.

    2) Alien Covenant – Liked it. Im not an Alien diehard so im not precious about this property. I came for big budget sci fi horror with cool monsters, guns, and gore, and thats exactly what i got.
    All the pretense went in one ear and out the other. Yes the ideas were nice, but they were paper thin.
    If i wasnt so damn starved for big budget scifi horror i probably wouldnt keep paying to see these. But here we are. It seems like its been Alien, Predator, Terminator, for the last 40 years. Nothing new… sigh.

    3) Baywatch – It was perfectly alright. A by the numbers plot supported by solid performances, serviceable humor, and some skin.

    There were plenty of dick jokes, gags, and an actual dead dick, but not enough to justify the R rating. And thats probably why it bombed.
    It’s baffling that an otherwise PG13 movie was pushed to R in order to add a penis and penile sight gags. I hope there is a lesson learned here.

    • ScriptChick

      Cool, my boyfriend really liked King Arthur too. Haven’t seen it myself but I was digging the couple of songs he played from its soundtrack.

      • Sal Ayala

        Yeah. From the opening credits on, it’s 100% worth the price of a matinee big screen ticket. He knows how to pick ‘em– movies that is ;)

  • jaehkim

    done

  • jaehkim

    there u go

  • jaehkim

    sent!

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    done!

  • jaehkim

    done!!

  • jaehkim

    sent!!

  • BMCHB

    There is a bang of “Sponsored By” off this review.

    Carson can review, I know Brian Duffield can write, but this is not it.

    I’ve read the entire script and, for a fact, an ‘Amateur Friday’ script wouldn’t get a vote if they wrote like this…

    #Fake Reviews

  • Master John Moss

    But was anyone excited to experience the adventures of YOUNG Indiana Jones? Nevermind that they were done on a TV budget and were glorified history lessons vs. rousing cliffhangers.

    People like their action stars all grown up. Rugged. Muscular. Masculine. Ready to take his leading lady to bed. Not some scrawny teen who looks like he’d wet himself if someone pointed a gun in his direction.

  • huckabees

    Just finished VIVIEN.

    If you like your script to be unpredictable, you’ll be pleased.

    If you like your screwball banter mixed with torture porn, you’ll be pleased.

    If you were hoping to read an elevated horror script, you’ll be bitterly disappointed.

    The hook of the possession could have been used as a way to force the couple to confront the flaws in their marriage. However, Duffield’s setup of the couple’s problems is so incredibly vague that there’s basically nothing to confront – which basically leads to act 2 being a horror spectacle / martyr story with no interest in exploring the characters psychologically.

  • GBlivins

    This is the perfect example of “script vs. film.” This is a script that’s meant to get attention. To get talked about. To get passed around. But never made. Why? Because in reality it sucks. When there’s no production money behind it, no crew, no actors, no director, it’s harmless. Like pulling down your pants on Sunset Blvd. Big deal. Duffield is the master at this kind of thing (i.e. The Babysitter). So, if there’s one lesson to be had here it is this: write a script like this to get noticed by Hollywood, fine. Write like this when you are getting paid and you will be fired immediately. Im-fucking-mediately.

  • Midnight Luck

    I find it really interesting, for all of Carson’s love of big blockbusters and spandexer movies, he consistently chooses these small, intimate, character driven scripts as his favorites.

    This reminds me so much of so many of his other “amazing” scripts, like THE BEAVER and EVERYTHING MUST GO, and THE VOICES, which he went gogo for gaga over.

    Now don’t get me wrong, I’m the first person to agree with him, I will take a small character driven interesting personal story any day over an empty, bloated, vacant vessel of a blockbuster movie. So I am not in any way saying his love of these kinds of scripts is bad.

    Thing is though, the world seems to be at polar opposites about this kind of thing. Beaver disappeared without a chuckle, The Voices was silent, and Everything Must Go seemed to go instantly, while also pissing off viewers.

    In todays world, no one seems to care about the well written, well crafted character driven indie movie.
    So, while this, or another of his scripts, may be a good calling card of a script for a writer, and he may be able to parlay it into a Directing gig for himself, I don’t know where he’s going to go from here?
    What will a sale of this kind of script get him?
    If he directs it himself, it better do a hell of a lot better than Beaver, Everything or Voices. It better bring in a least a decent amount of dough ($50 million or more) or it will vanish into the wind.
    And if this is the kind of work he does, which seems to be the case, what project will he be given based on the script he’s written that everyone loves?

    It isn’t exactly “True Story” material. It isn’t Action, blockbuster work. No, it is quirky, indie, character work. So unless it brings in tons of awards during Oscar season, I don’t see where he’s going to go with it.

    This is not ROOM, it is a bizarre comedy, quirk fest.
    Really, Nobody seems to want these things anymore.

    Depressing to me, and sad for the state of movies, but it does seem to be the truth.

    I guess there’s plenty of this kind of work for him in Television.
    And that’s where all the money and work is nowadays anyhow.

    • BMCHB

      I must dig out Carson’s Ronnie Rocket review. It wasn’t a good one.

      O: He once told me that he could do things that no one else could.

      I: He was a difficult man?

      O: Yes. Very. It was the day he claimed he could make “the world disappear” that changed everything.

      I: Everything?

      O: Everything. Twenty-six of us gathered on that rooftop – he said it had to be a New York City Skyline – and awaited the moment. He walked out and stood on the edge of forever. He threw his arms out and declared: BEHOLD MY MAJESTIES; and then..

      I: Then what?

      O: You weren’t there.

      I: Did he make the world disappear?

      O: Yes.

      I: That’s impossible. How did he make the world disappear?

      O: He closed his eyes.

  • RO

    So after reading this script, I must say I am surprised by how much leeway Carson gave to Brain. On page 4 there’s an obvious spelling mistake. He spells dessert with a single ‘s’. For an instant I thought he was talking about a sandy wasteland. Then he does it again on page 5! Also, Charles isn’t introduced as a character in the script, so I’m seeing the name but it isn’t in CAPS or followed by a description. Then I started noticing that the writer is figuratively holding my hand through this script. Telling me things are going to happen and going to get worse. Don’t tell me that in a script. Surprise me. Then page 13 “she sweat” instead of “she sweats”. The most surprising thing in this script was the title card on page 21. This is not The Departed and didn’t earn this long teaser if you will.
    Also, as soon as Vivian snatched the lighter and melted it in her hand I quickly learned that she doesn’t like fire and low and behold, a few pages before it’s all over – fire saves the day.

    It’s framework for a story is… meh. It needs more. A lot more. Like a conflict between the couple before Vivian is possessed. Right now it’s vague and artificial. A cheating spouse is boring. How about something different? There are lots of interesting and different marriage problems besides infidelity. Let’s see something challenging. Maybe one is spending money they don’t have on selfish things to fill a void that the other can not help with?

    • PQOTD

      Just out of curiosity, was she cheating because of being possessed? Or did that happen before?

      • ShiroKabocha

        “infidelity can be a symptom of trouble, not a root cause”

        Exactly. So much more complex and idiosyncratic than what Hollywood would have you think. Another thing which shows writers who use this shortcut don’t know much about psychology / have little life experience is the idea that you only cheat with someone you’re attracted to / have feelings for / is ten times hotter than your actual partner. People also cheat for reasons that don’t entail the desire to leave one’s partner. Some are even OK with the partner’s escapades. There are so many causes ranging from boredom, spite, opportunity, feeling insecure, calling for attention, or not wanting / knowing how to tell someone to their face that they want a relationship to end so they provoke them into doing the breaking-up, etc etc.

        • PQOTD

          Well put.

          I think that’s why a lot of old movies beat new stuff hands down. The writers were often older, and quite a bit wiser. They made for richer characters.

      • RO

        The script does not specify. We only know that the Charlie and Vivian were laughing while doing dishes (hardly an offense) while Charlie’s wife was suggesting an affair with Tom who was not listening. The script isn’t solid on when exactly the demons possessed Vivian and any of the ‘tricks’ that possessed Vivian did are just that, tricks. There is a lot of ambiguity in this script.

  • Malibo Jackk
    • BMCHB

      Jai Brandon that posts here? Get in! Brilliant news :-)

  • nicohajj

    This screenplay sounds amazing. It has a feel like A Cure of Wellness, even if that movie was not that great.

  • PQOTD

    Sorry to state the bleeding fucking obvious, Loetzen, but where does it say the demons possessing this person whose body happens to be a woman’s are also female?

    Perhaps what Duffield should’ve written was a script about a guy trying to save his brother who’s been possessed by gender non-specific demons and is abusing him for trying to free his kith and kin from their possession.

    Would it be okay if he stuck by his brother, or would that demonstrate that he’s weak-willed and a bit of a wuss, too?

    • ShiroKabocha

      Don’t engage. This guy’s a troll who’s got an axe to grind with women and sees “feminist propaganda” everywhere (only ever posts to rant about SJW, check out his previous comments. Or don’t. You’d be wasting your time).

      Must be so terrified of them women, poor soul. Guilty conscience maybe ? Did something wrong to them and afraid they might retaliate ? Then watch out ! They’re coming to get you !

      • PQOTD

        I should know better, yeah, but it’ll be interesting to see if he responds AND, if so, whether he can justify why a man fighting to save his possessed brother would be heroic but fighting to save his possessed wife wouldn’t be.

        Actually, I think he won’t engage. Guys like him like to point out others’ double standards but can’t deal with having their own exposed.

  • Orange Pop

    Did someone already send you it? Let me know if you still need it…

  • Orange Pop

    Did someone already send you it? Let me know if you still need it!

    • Kirill Sokolov

      It would be great – I still need it! Thanks)

      • Orange Pop

        Sent!!

  • Orange Pop

    Sent.

  • Orange Pop

    Sent!

    • Chiefton

      me too please! And any other duffield scripts you might have? amacdonald00 (@) gmail.com

  • Orange Pop

    Tried sending a few times, wouldn’t go through. Sent it again– if not, send me your email again.

  • Joel Crosby

    I would very much like this script, if anyone has it. jhtorkveen[@]gmail[.]com.

  • JasonTremblay

    Me, too, please. :)

    jasondiggy at hotmail

  • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1888937/ Rick McGovern

    Wow! This script annoyed the HELL out of me! lol