Adam Sandler was just on the Joe Rogan podcast and a big portion of the interview focused on stand-up. Before Adam Sandler became a movie star and even before he was on Saturday Night Live, he did stand-up.

Sandler talks about those early days when he would go up on stage and bomb. The crowd wouldn’t be laughing at ANYTHING. He said that every night he went back home after he bombed and was not phased at all. Cause he just KNEW he was going to make it.

Rogan said the same thing happened to him. He was stumbling around Hollywood not really connecting with anything. But he knew that he would make it. He called it the “value of being delusional.”

When he said this, I knew exactly what he meant. I had the exact same feeling when I first got to Los Angeles. I worked at an editing facility in the Valley and I would use it to edit stuff that I shot. I would put these shorts and videos together in the back editing bays and, occasionally, co-workers would come through and watch them and, most of the time, have very confused looks on their faces. They didn’t really understand what I was doing.

But it didn’t bother me at all. I’d think, “Clearly they have bad taste if they don’t realize this stuff is brilliant. Because it is.” I genuinely thought I was going to be some big director on the level of Quentin Tarantino. I’m not lying. I genuinely believed that.

Not only is it great to be delusional. It’s required. Because what you eventually learn is that you’re not competing against a dozen other people. You’re competing against hundreds of thousands of people. And the top 50,000 of those people will do anything to make it. If you’re not delusional in those early stages, you’ll give up.

That’s what delusion provides you. It provides you with confidence while you hone your craft and actually get good. That’s what happened with both Sandler and Rogan. Their early stuff sucked. But they were delusional long enough to get better until they both got their break (Sandler with SNL and Rogan with News Radio).

But that’s the rub, isn’t it? This only works if you find that first success before the delusion wears off. Once you understand what you’re up against, and how difficult it is to succeed in this town, you start playing scared. Your doubt starts to overwhelm you. Every page you write is the worst page ever. And every script you write that isn’t received well feels like one more nail in your screenwriting dream coffin.

This led me to today’s question: How does one succeed if they never experienced success before their delusion ran out?

Or, more pointedly: What replaces delusion as your main motivational force?

You have to change the way you perceive success. If success is only getting a movie you wrote into 2000 theaters, then of course you’re going to feel more and more like a failure with every failed script. And let me tell you something. I know writers who worked their asses off to finally achieve that feat and you know what almost all of them told me? They’re upset the movie didn’t do better. Or they’re upset that the producers changed things. Or they’re upset at all the b.s. they had to go through behind the scenes which took all the fun out of it.

In other words, even when you find success, you will move the goal post so that you can continue being frustrated.

Happiness, when it comes to screenwriting (or any art), must be internally motivated. It sounds cheesy but in order to succeed at screenwriting after the delusion wears off, you have to love what you write. As long as you sit down and write something and you love writing that story, you’re winning.

Because while you may not be receiving the financial benefits the professional writers are, I can almost guarantee that you’re having a better writing experience than they are. You’re writing something you love. They’re writing to make sure people aren’t disappointed in them.

Okay, that’s all well and good, Carson. Rah rah rah! Write for yourself. Stay poor your entire life. Never find success. The career we all dreamed of. Thanks for the help.

That’s not what I’m saying. I still want you to succeed and I still believe you will succeed. Here’s how that happens: Write the ideas you personally love so that you continue writing. As long as you continue to write, you will keep getting better. If you keep getting better, you have a shot at becoming a professional.

BUT! You still have to be your own agent. With every script you finish, you want to push it out there to as many people as possible. If you don’t know people, pay for contests. If you don’t have money, put your scripts up on message boards and trade feedback. You should be aiming to get AT LEAST 25 PEOPLE to read every script you finish. That’s the bottom required number for you to hit if you want any realistic chance of selling a script, or getting an agent, or getting hired for a job.

You’re going to get a lot of no’s no matter WHAT. Even if you have that ‘in’ at Lionsgate – the number 4 executive there who told you you can send him a script any time. Even if that guy likes it, it may not be the right fit for the company. So you can’t just send the script out to 3 or 4 people then move on. That’s one of the biggest mistakes screenwriters make. They never give their scripts a chance.

If you get your script to 25 people and they all read it and the feedback is underwhelming… MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE. If you get your script to 25 people and 5 of them say there’s something interesting there but it needs more development, consider writing more drafts to meet that potential. If you get your script to 25 people and the feedback is good, you may have something on your hands and you should start REALLY pushing that script. To 50 people. To 75 people.

Because you’re going to get a lot of no’s no matter what. Even people who really like your script are going to have to say ‘no’ for one reason or another. That’s why you give it to a lot of people. I think the Black List is suss sometimes but if you can afford 4 reviews, that’s 4 people you just got it to. And if one or two give you an 8, you’re onto something.

You can give it to me. I’m not cheap but you can ask me straight up, “Carson, is this script worth pursuing or should I move on to the next one.” I’ll give you my honest opinion.  What I recommend you do, though, is get multiple logline consultations from me BEFORE YOU WRITE THE SCRIPT so I can save you time on stuff that won’t get reads (e-mail me at Carsonreeves1@gmail.com).

And don’t tell me finding 25 people to read your script is hard. You want to know what’s hard? Finding 25 people to read your script before the internet. THAT WAS HARD. Finding 25 people to read your script when you’re connected to 8 billion people is a piece of cake. I’m sorry but you’re not getting my tears if you can’t figure that out.  Trust me. If you want it bad enough, you’ll find those 25 people.

The way you pursue screenwriting after the delusion wears off is to love the act of screenwriting. As long as you’re enjoying telling stories, you are winning and you are getting better. And as long as you’re getting those scripts out there once you’re finished, you’re giving yourself a shot at becoming a professional.  Never stop doing that and, eventually, your day will come.